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I think we're beyond that point this election cycle. >> you talk about other candidates in the race. we've talked about cain. we've talked about romney. but you've also talked about some who were too outside the main stream. so extreme in their views to be elected president. are you talking about some of your rivals right now in this race? >> well, i'm talking about a republican party that dismisses mainstream science. i think in order for us to be successful, we've got to win over some independents. we've got to do the math. the math has to be in our favor. you can't run away from mainstream ...

I think we're beyond that point this election cycle. >> you talk about other candidates in the race. we've talked about cain. we've talked about romney. but you've also talked about some who were too outside the main stream. so extreme in their views to be elected president. are you talking about some of your rivals right now in this race? >> well, i'm talking about a republican party that dismisses mainstream science. i think in order for us to be successful, we've got to win over some independents. we've got to do the math. the math has to be in our favor. you can't run away from mainstream ...