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97 and the end of the first bush term. they went further than a lot of corporations that were unhappy about that deal. a lot of reasons to oppose it on fairness grounds, on economic grounds but exxon-mobil went after the science and tried to create a culture of doubt about what was emerging and has as mainstream science around climate change. now they changed in the last four or five years, but it's a suggestion about when they decide to intervene in the public debate about a big issue in their world, they can do so very aggressively. >> josh, i want to bring you in. you're in the business wor...

>> hello everyone, it is 1:00 on the east coast. let's get straight to the news. your paycheck and benefits may be cut and your taxes may go up all because congress can't agree on another very important issue, that is payroll tax cuts. congress is in a political standoff right now. the senate passed a two-month extension a moment ago. house republicans rejected that in a procedural vote and are pushing a one year extension. keep in mind payroll tax cuts and extended unemployment benefits expire in less than two weeks. >> our members do not want to just punt and do a two-month short...

I think we're beyond that point this election cycle. >> you talk about other candidates in the race. we've talked about cain. we've talked about romney. but you've also talked about some who were too outside the main stream. so extreme in their views to be elected president. are you talking about some of your rivals right now in this race? >> well, i'm talking about a republican party that dismisses mainstream science. i think in order for us to be successful, we've got to win over some independents. we've got to do the math. the math has to be in our favor. you can't run away from mainstream ...

I think we're beyond that point this election cycle. >> you talk about other candidates in the race. we've talked about cain. we've talked about romney. but you've also talked about some who were too outside the main stream. so extreme in their views to be elected president. are you talking about some of your rivals right now in this race? >> well, i'm talking about a republican party that dismisses mainstream science. i think in order for us to be successful, we've got to win over some independents. we've got to do the math. the math has to be in our favor. you can't run away from mainstream ...

Could very well prove that point. but i think it's a nonsense issue. i completely think it's a nonsense issue. there is no bandwidth left in our political discussion to focus any of our effort or time on religion when we've got jobs, when we've got an economy that's broken. when this country has hit the wall. i don't think people are spending a whole lot of time evaluating one's religion. they may have in years past, but i think we're beyond that point this election cycle. >> you talk about other candidates in the race. we've talked about cain. we've talked about romney. but you've also talked...