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We almost just had the entire federal government shut down over republicans' crusade to defund planned parenthood. >> are you willing to hold up this entire budget over defunding planned parenthood? >> well, of course i am. >> this weekend, would-be republican presidential candidate newt gingrich spoke at an event at liberty university where he was co-billed alongside a panel discussion called "abortion: ending the holocaust." this is the way you construct a national mainstream republican candidacy now. you stand beside abortion as the holocaust events, you advocate shutting down the federal g...

The state of kansas is one degree of separation from the fringiest of the fringe, the violent fringe. and that is how extremism is mainstreamed. we almost just had the entire federal government shut down over republicans' crusade to defund planned parenthood. >> are you willing to hold up this entire budget over defunding planned parenthood? >> well, of course i am. >> this weekend, would-be republican presidential candidate newt gingrich spoke at an event at liberty university where he was co-billed alongside a panel discussion called "abortion: ending the holocaust." this is the way you cons...

Holocaust events, you advocate shutting down the federal government rather than allowing funding for pap smears at planned parenthood. that's the republican mainstream and you want to be hard-core in your anti-abortion views, where does the mainstream stop and the fringe begin anymore? where is the line? joining us now for the interview tonight is steven singulair. he is author of the new book "the witchta divide: the murder of dr. george tiller and the battle over abortion." mr. singulair, i have been looking forward to meeting you for a long time. thanks for coming in. >> thanks for having m...