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Attempted murder of dr. tiller. and suddenly law enforcement in the state of kansas is one degree of separation from the fringiest of the fringe, the violent fringe. and that is how extremism is mainstreamed. we almost just had the entire federal government shut down over republicans' crusade to defund planned parenthood. >> are you willing to hold up this entire budget over defunding planned parenthood? >> well, of course i am. >> this weekend, would-be republican presidential candidate newt gingrich spoke at an event at liberty university where he was co-billed alongside a panel discussion c...

We almost just had the entire federal government shut down over republicans' crusade to defund planned parenthood. >> are you willing to hold up this entire budget over defunding planned parenthood? >> well, of course i am. >> this weekend, would-be republican presidential candidate newt gingrich spoke at an event at liberty university where he was co-billed alongside a panel discussion called "abortion: ending the holocaust." this is the way you construct a national mainstream republican candidacy now. you stand beside abortion as the holocaust events, you advocate shutting down the federal g...

His latest book 25 years later is about the assassination of dr. george tiller by scott roeder in 2009. mr. singular says he thinks the book about dr. tiller is a sequel of sorts to the book about alan berg's murder. he says, "the overwhelming difference in the united states between 1984 when alan berg was shot in an act of domestic terrorism and 2009 was that extremism was no longer extreme. the sense of victimization that had once fueled the order was now broadcast 24 hours a day on talk radio, on cable television, and encouraged in countless other respectable venues." stephen, you talk a lo...

The state of kansas is one degree of separation from the fringiest of the fringe, the violent fringe. and that is how extremism is mainstreamed. we almost just had the entire federal government shut down over republicans' crusade to defund planned parenthood. >> are you willing to hold up this entire budget over defunding planned parenthood? >> well, of course i am. >> this weekend, would-be republican presidential candidate newt gingrich spoke at an event at liberty university where he was co-billed alongside a panel discussion called "abortion: ending the holocaust." this is the way you cons...

Stephen, you talk a lot in this book about the mainstreaming of what used to be fringe ideas. do you see parallels in the motivation of these different fringe firs s figures who committed these two murders s s 25 years apart? >> there's no question about it. scott roeder was very familiar with the turner diaries, which was the novel that the order used to carry out their 240 crimes that they committed in 1983 and 1984. this was a violently anti-semitic fantasy novel that was sold at gun shows. timothy mcveigh was involved in that as well. there's a thread that runs through the whole story. ber...