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Underlying issue here. a discomfort with majority democracy among the trumpist right. it is a definitive example of putting party over country, and props to nyu historian who recognized the danger of lee's logic saying such talk often precedes exceptional and authoritarian government actions. look for more of this in the future. we sure did. if you need a reminder of why this is a rear view mirror exercise, remember the ex-president's lackeys are still pushing the big lie and trying to have the election dece decertified. if you're still not convinced, listen to what retired federal judge micha...

Joins us now is the professor. thank you for joining us. appreciate it. your point about the last eight presidential elections put that way is really quite stunning. how far from idealized democracy is the united states? >> well, not sure anybody has achieved and realized democracy but if you compare the united states to other established democracies in the world, canada, new zealand, japan, all of europe, we are far and away the most counter majority democracy that allows parties that lose the popular vote to

So, two weeks until election with huge national implications, it's the recall vote in california for governor gavin newsom. it's a quirky law in process. quirky is a nice way of putting it, with a huge amount at stake. john avalon with a reality check. >> there's a recall election looming in california, and here's why it matters if you live outside the golden state. first, because it's another republican end run around majority democracy. second, because control of the u.s. senate could hang in the balance. you might have thought this was just some doomed gop stunt because california is reliab...

>> and yet, that's the question, right? because it all seems like he is playing these 40/60 politics. meaning 40% of the public is with him. 60% is against him. >> uh-huh. >> which shouldn't work in a majority democracy and yet it is somehow working. >> think about this, chris. his first goal is to try to control the republicans as much as he can. and so what he is doing with that 40%, which still remains a super majority of republicans is to control the party, control his chance going forward, try to discipline or jettison republicans who don't agree with him by threatening to get them primar...

Republican's shutdown in october which was inspired over appeal of the affordable care act, more repealed it than supported it. let me start with michelle on this. if you look at these numbers on guns and the chance at least for peace or avoiding a war with iran, a strong substantial number there. and yet the debate swings the other way too often. >> right. i mean, part of the problem is that the republican party or at least republican candidates are incentivized against being responsive to the majority of the people in this country. so there's no pressure on individual candidates to respond t...