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Trump really needs to fix. whether we shut down or not, and i don't think we will. we'll pass a cr. but moving forward on the health care bill or whatever the issue may be, there's uncertainty from house republicans, and they're tired of being on this rocky ground where they can't move forward. >> that is a fascinating take, doug. ron, let me bring you in for a little perspective. i mean, if you look -- if we stick on the government shutdown that wasn't, at least for a moment, for a second. if you look back at the past shutdowns, who does end up getting the blame? how does it not reach the whi...

>> right. >> the other people -- >> they have been lied to before. >> they have been lied to before. they are used to the lying but people that i know in michigan and wisconsin and ohio that voted for trump out of anger, not because they believe in his ideology, they are going to be protected by the same things that president obama set up. what the rest of us need to do, those of us in that majority resistance, we need to push for the real kind of universal health care that we have to have or it's never really going to truly work for everyone. that's a hun verse sal single payer health system ...

That president obama set up. what the rest of us need to do, those of us in that majority resistance, we need to push for the real kind of universal health care that we have to have or it's never really going to truly work for everyone. that's a hun verse sal single payer health system like canada's. we can do it here, cost less money, everybody will be covered. people aren't going to lose their homes or anything as a result of a doctor's bill. that's what we really need and that's what the discussion should be about, not us trying to cling to the baby steps that president obama set up for us....