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That it will keep working? what can we do to make it work? >> well i don't know -- i am basically up to the -- i don't know how much it's justified. that's senator kennedy to say, the country is swinging now. it swings, sometimes to extreme ways in one ways, sometimes to extremes the other way but sort of rights itself eventually. when enough people in the country say, look, i really want is what we learned in the fifth grade. that people work together, they'll get it. >> people work together. that's great. fifth grade civics. right? how a bill become as law. look, i think the justice holds th...

I'm basically optimistic and i don't how much that's justified so i think the country is swinging. and sometimes to extremes in one way and sometimes to extremes the other way but it sort of rights itself eventually. when enough people in the country say look, when i really want is what we learned in the fifth grade work together they'll get it. >> people work together. that's great. fifth grade specifics, right? how a bill becomes a law. i think the justice holds that view honestly. i think it's not political performance. he doesn't have to get reelected, that's what he believes. and a lot of...

Have not thought about. from the very moment that the majority party in this house won the inevitability that we would be here today was only a matter of what date they would schedule it. nothing else. in fact, how it even began to look even further on september 24, the speaker announced and in peak impeachment inquiry before even seeing the call transcript we are going to hear so much about today. it's not about what this body can do in its constitutional oath, there's been a lot of constitutional and founders thrown around and will be all day today but there's one thing i will mention all al...

Place raskin, right? james raskin maryland district. so you go into this hearing room as a witness and then the members of the rules committee will be able to question you and the democrat. and what is that process like? >> well, have you ever had a root canal it would look very similar. i've been on the rules committee. it will involve questioning about each side republicans will try to make some of their points and ask questions that are in favor of the republican minority view. of course democrats will promote the majority view. it goes back and forth. it is a strange process. interesting f...

That are inconsistent with the majority view. i've never seen a situation where there is been so much division. the clinton impeachment, cause division, but not like this. and look, there's a lot of fault to go around. i think the president is the visiting devising he uses words that divides as well. he fights back. he is what he is. he was elected, everybody knew who he was he didn't surprise anybody what is done in office. but there is so much division on both sides, that i hope we can begin to yield. and i don't see the healing process being furthered by an impeachment. i think will further...