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going down. one of the reporters who broke that story joins me live, and it was a rough day for a couple of other trump royal figures. trying to stay out of court. >> why is the senator of south carolina calling the secretary of georgia anyway? >> all in starts right now. good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes. we finally got to hear from donald trump's white house counsel, pat cipollone. on friday, you might remember, he spoke to the january 6th committee behind closed doors for hours. and then at yesterday's hearing, the committee revealed several clips of his videotaped inter...

we finally got to hear from donald trump's white house counsel, pat cipollone. on friday, you might remember, he spoke to the january 6th committee behind closed doors for hours. and then at yesterday's hearing, the committee revealed several clips of his videotaped interviews. we are going to play some of that shortly. cipollone's testimony, as far as we can tell, conformed with the broader picture that we have now gathered for many witnesses. donald trump was dead set on staying in office, against the will of the american people, by any means necessary. cipollone was among those in...

jansen. there is news that donald trump has decided whether to run for president. he still mulling whether to announce it before or after the midterms? if his answer is yes -- he did not say that out right. he's merely meant to distract as to what is the hottest topic in washington. who was he trying to get in touch with when he reached out to one of the january 6th witnesses. what was he planning to tell them? what they call mark to evidence as witness tampering? it's been confirmed it was a white horse support staff member. white horse support staff according to cnn, it was not som...

limit a women's ability to cross state lines for a legal abortion order get federally approved abortion medication. it comes at a time when the president has come under fire from some within his own party for not acting with more urgency. this is "outnumbered." i'm kayleigh mcenany here with my cohost, harris faulkner and emily compagno. also joining us as lisa boothe and richard fowler. what we are about to see, mla, is a giant red herring. i had our brain room look at what we found. currently no states ban or have attempted to ban interstate travel to obtain abortions. that's the c...

overturn the election results. that man is donald trump's top white house lawyer pat cipollone. he sat down for a transcribed interview under oath with investigators this morning. as far as we can tell, that interview or that meeting is ongoing at this hour. punch bowl news reports this about the parameters of today's testimony from cipollone, quote, sources tell us that the select committee does not have an agreement about what investigators can or cannot ask him. prior to hutchinson's testimony the panel had discussed an arrangement with cipollone for an on the record interview, bu...