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Agreeing to a deficit deal. why at this point is the pointing of the finger so important? >> because when the pain comes somebody is going to want to know who is responsible. the white house did make a miscalculation. they thought republicans would never accept sequester cuts if it meant cuts in defense spending. the republicans are saying we will take the cuts in defense spending because spending is spending. i think the white house does have the upperhand in one respect. the republicans think they have a better message but the white house has a better messenger. who can compete are president...

The swamp and clean up the house. looks like she's adding as they go along. megyn: i can see your point if he doesn't step down, but, dick, i'll give you the last word. if he steps down, how do the democrats -- republicans successfully tar the democrats with this? >> i've got two words for you, tom delay, and i think that is enough to counter any allegations about charlie rangel. by the way, it is a bipartisan committee attempting to get rangel to step down and try him. it's bipartisan, democrats and republicans. so and, you know, the other thing is this, i think we all make a miscalculation. ...