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Notification and education phase at that point. Were not proposing to serve a customer until october under this program. Okay. I guess i am wondering if were surveying people do we have these actual rates and not to exceed rates in place otherwise we shouldnt be surveying people if were misleading them. We dont serve anybody i mean surveying. Oh surveying. Excuse me. Okay. I dont see the point to surveying people if were creating some kind of maybe anxiety or fear around these rates that may not end up being the reality. So i just wanted to point out that the reason were surveying is to measur...

Lofty values in a good place so i want to make sure when were approaching and informing customers about the incomes in rates that. Increases in rates that it balances with some information about the value of trying to reach these goals that the city has put forward which have to do with makes sure that we get to 100 renewable Electricity Supply within 10 years, so i think how people are informed is pretty critical. Yes, yes. And thats largely why were making the presentation today is to talk through what the different methods are. Yes. We dont get to the level of detail of actual scripts but w...

Month versus 11dollar premium that we have equivalent to 6. Yes, and thats for thats reflective for the cost difference between providing a Renewable Energy credit versus firmed and shaped renewable power, so its the product difference that is embedded in that price difference which goes to commissioner olagues statement that people need to understand the value behind what the Price Premium is addressing. And credit that pg e can purchase rather than generate the clean power themselves. Correct. Correct. And we limit that component to 5 of the overall portfolio. Thank you. Commissioner moran a...

Okay. What i was thinking, but i guess i am concerned a little bit of course we want to definitely inform customers about these increases and rates that would result as part of this clean power shift, but i think i guess at some point i would be interested in understanding how that is going to be marketed or what language or what script would be used, because ultimately the goal isnt so much related to, you know, well, i have to be careful how i say this i guess, but i guess the goal the city is reach 100 renewable electric supply within 10 years so we have these i think very lofty values in a...

Focusing on. We do have detail numbers behind the picture that we could certainly share with you, and have shared with the puc previously. Okay. Very good. Commissioner mo ran. Thank you through the chair do we know what the pg e premium is likely to be for their green offering. In their initial proposal it was stated if memory serves me at not more than 2 cents 2. 5 cents over what they currently charge customers b again that is a proposal. It will go through the cupuc process and may change. When you say 2. 5 cents is that literally like the 21. 97 would go to 21. 99 . Harlan kelly, general ...