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Blanket term, i want to push on that all tests not created equal and, in fact there, are -- it's really important for to us push below the surface and say testing is a very expensive business, and to act like the only way for us to measure student or teacher performance is based on the test without sort of determining whether or not tests are of quality. >> because it's expensive, and also profit making for some. >> absolutely. so we've certainly spent a tremendous amount of money as opposed to more authentic assessments, seen as very subjective. demonstrating our knowledge and our learning ha...

Put forward in order to stimulate growth doesn't, in fact, stimulate growth. that's been proven. it continues to concentrate wealth to the upper 1%. not even the 1%, the .01%. this is the problem in temps of upward mobility, not in terms of poor people, but middle class people. only so much wealth to go around. as we continue to move it upward, there is less room for people in the middle. making $20,000, $80,000 to give a better life to their kids than themselves. people don't want to talk about, there is a trouble not in the lower class, which is entirely being thrown your honor the bus. we k...

Aware. at one town hall meeting we had 1400 people and at a second we had 900 people and so yes i've tried to discuss these matters with constituents in the district. >> yes, and this is genuinely commendable, we've lauded you on it for this program. many colleagues did not. those town halls happened before the bill legislation was introduced? am i correct? >> certainly we had our principles but yes it was before the bill was introduced. >> so if i were in your district and i were on the exchange making $20,000, 60-year-old old and saw my out-of-pocket cost going up $7,000, i didn't know when ...

Commendable, we've lauded you on it for this program. many colleagues did not. those town halls happened before the bill legislation was introduced? am i correct? >> certainly we had our principles but yes it was before the bill was introduced. >> so if i were in your district and i were on the exchange making $20,000, 60-year-old old and saw my out-of-pocket cost going up $7,000, i didn't know when you had the town hall, now that the bill exists i do know that, do you see why it might be important to have hearings or exchanges with constituents? >> i have a series of exchanges with constituen...