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she passed away a couple of years ago. she never went to college. she worked when my grandfather went off to world war ii, she was on an assembly lyon making bombers. when my grandfather came back, he got the gi bill to go to college, but she didn't so she went to work. she started as a secretary and ended up as a vice president at a bank. in hawaii. despite the fact that she hadn't gone to college, she was so well prepared in terms of math and reading and skills that she could end up getting an executive position working up from being secretary. well, now we rank 21st in science education in the world and we rank 25th in math education in the world.