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Has the ability under the law to use the i.r.s. as a political instrument, and it's congress's fault. as long as what this is, what president obama is doing, presidents of both parties have done it because congress has intentionally given wiggle room in the statute that creates the i.r.s. so that presidents of both parties can torment their opponents. and that's not what we have an i.r.s. for. >> what they're doing is the i.r.s. is trying to define political activities and you can only do a certain amount of them. what is a political activity? we've got a graphic. get out the vote drive. they ...

501(c)(3) applicant in 25 years of making grants. >> i'm totally outraged by the accusation that we're somehow subsidized by the taxpayers. people making donations to the c4 organization, that is not a tax deductible amount. we're not getting any amount from the taxpayers. what we're saying is, hey, if we want to have a group, people pay dues or make a donation that at the end of the year, or whatever, that we're not subject to pay taxes on that money again, which has already been taxed when the person earned it to begin with. this is an outrage to imply that somehow we're taking money from st...

In the interim, i st a $30,000 launch grala from aable nonprofitse executive director advised me he had never seen such treatment of a 501c3 applicant in 25 years of making grants. >> i am totally outrained boy the accusation that we are somehow subzed by taxpayers. people making donations to a c4, we are not getting any money from the taxpayer. we are seeing, hey, if we want to have a group is have people pay dues o make a donation or the end of the year that weou ae not subject to pay taxes on that money again, which is taxed when the person earned it. this is an outrage to say that so are t...

Groups from across the country who were brought in by congress to testify and tell their stories are doing just that, they're going down the line giving their opening statements. i want to play the very first one we heard from. it was powerful and really il us stra tiff of the kind of frustration they've had. this particular group applied for tax exempt status a long time ago and still to this day doesn't have it. >> as of today, i've been waiting for 29 months without status. in the interim, i lost a $30,000 launch grant from a reputable nonprofit whose executive director advised me that he h...

Tax exempt status. we are looking here, a live picture, and they are taking testimony from folks who say they were unfairly targeted by the irs. >> as of today, i've been waiting for 29 months without status. in the interim i lost $30,000 launch grant from a reputable nonprofit whose executive director advised me he had never seen such treatment of 501c3 applicant of this in 25 years of making grants. >> hearing on chill napitol hil the only problem for the irs. irs spending now. want to bring in dana bash on capitol hill who's got her hands on the report. how damaging is is it? >> reporter: t...