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Do you see that as posturing, we're doing our best, or do you think the republicans are serious and feeling pressure about making a deal? >> i don't think they feel that much pressure. i think they feel -- they feel a little bit of pressure but feel more pressure from their base and from the right, and that is especially true in the house among the house caucus. the whole reason for that plan b fiasco, of course, that boehner pulled before christmas, was that his more conservative members wouldn't agree to any tax increase at all, even on incomes above $1 million a year. the pressure they feel...

With. are you going to get it done? if so, how? >> i think we will. look, that's my position all along. i just think it's the smart thing to do when you've got areas that you agree, to get them taken care of out of the way. honestly we're in a stronger position because we've been talking about what the democrats don't want to talk about, reducing spending and dealing with entitlement reform. instead, you know we fought over something that was going to happen anyway. under current law, taxes are going up for every american, that's not acceptable outcome. if we protect 9 %, 99%, to me we ought t...