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Response. we saw the images of the president sitting with the senators. it seemed jovial. how tough a time is president trump going to have persuading up to nine senators opposing the bill? and do you think he'll even have a hands-on approach? so far he doesn't seem to get into the nuts and bolts of making policy. >> certainly in terms of health care that's been the case all along. i've spoken to people who met the president in earlier iterations of the health care fight in terms of coming up with a policy. he appeared totally disengaged from the complexity and the detail of it. i think he was...

Decisions that are going to affect all of us, not just whity men. and the republican party, i have friends across the board. but in concerning the c leadership, who's in charge of making policy that emanates from not only the federal government but in the states, it has failed at the concept of including everyone. >> tucker: would you acknowledge that people of the same color can have dramatically different motives while remaining authentic? you look at supreme court justice clarence thomas, who was attacked for daring to have views different from the majority of people who looked like him, th...

Because of their skin color. the revoking party and the policy that emanates there from is being attacked because per se doesn't include substantial diversity that looks like the country. >> tucker: so i'm just saying and i'm sure this does occur to you but if you have a political conversation where one group is starting to attack another group on the basis of its race that you could wind up with a country where all groups start attacking other groups on the basis of theirs, he could wind up with a really divided dangerously so country can. >> i think we disagree on the premise that people are...

Garden after what happened. i really wanted to cry. and when i say it's not a game, they are treating it like a game but for the people that i represent and for people across the country, it's not a game and a point that i was trying to make and the menu here and see that picture in the rose garden, you realize who it is, that is celebrating this and then hear that it's all white boy, sorry to say it that way that are going to be doing this incentive, i get very concerned. >> tucker: the white boys. this is clearly no longer a debate over policy, but health care or anything else. it something ...