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We don't have much time to be able to make transformational, systemic change in people's lives. and it's like they're not -- democrats and republicans are not playing the same game right now. >> so i hear what you're saying. i completely respect it, and like i get your frustration. but at the same time, i think there has to be the understanding throughout the whole country that change is -- the kind of change that we're looking for, it doesn't happen overnight. >> absolutely. >> also some of this change, biden can't do. >> i would push back against my friends on the democratic side who are kin...

Look what happened when trump was in office, what did he do? he praised dictators like erdogan in turkey and putin and duterte in the philippines. he praised brutal dictators. who does he look up to? >> in my mind, voting rights and i want to say tossing out the filibuster, but amending the filibuster, go hand in hand. if there is a portion of our society that doesn't feel heard and when they go to the ballot box and don't have access to the ballot box -- >> but neal, the filibuster is off the table. biden has made it clear he's not going to do that. >> i say amending it, making republicans, m...

Know, on his staff and the people that enabled him. that's it. it's atrocious, it's repulsive. and it's clearly not backing the blue, as they say that they, you know, do. and it's not loving america as they also claim to do and have done over and over again. it really makes my stomach churn. >> so many republicans, sandra, are taking their cues from the former president and just pretending that january 6 wasn't even a threat. check out this new audio of the former president talking about the insurrection with two "washington post" journalists. this was about four months after the attack. >> th...

So i think all of us, republicans and democrats, have to make the decision we are going to put country ahead of party. >> wow. jason carroll joins me now. jason, i had all these questions prepared, but what did you think? that's what i want to know. what did you think? >> reporter: well, a couple things. you heard part of it there, don. i was really surprised that the first thing this group didn't want to talk about was the pandemic. i thought that would be first on their list. but their feeling is that the president and his administration has a handle on that in terms of how the country is re...

The filibuster so government can function. >> see, i sense that, though, from like don when he questioned him, right, at the town call, and i was like, joe knows what he's doing. it's been doing it for 36 years. we have to trust that he has to cater somewhat to the republicans. he has to cater somewhat to make a middle ground, and that was the best thing about his message last night. united. if we don't do it together and we keep fighting these extreme rights and lefts, we're never going to get it done. so don't worry about the filibuster part. we got to move past that. >> history is repeating...