largely, a matter of the unvaccinated infecting other unvaccinated people. there are precautions that can help ameliorate some of the effects, or reduce the possibility. but what we really need are people to say, you know what, we all have to get vaccinated. not just for our own safety and for those we love, but for our neighbors. until that happens, we'll have a continued problem. >> but the vaccinated can still spread, carry the virus and spread it. go ahead, ron. >> the question is, you saw what governor cuomo did today, urging basically facilities to only allow in vaccinated to restaurants and concerts. the question is whether you can get to the level you need solely with carrots, or if the