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Themselves with the president that brung them to the dance. we see that historically, that's not a modern phenomenon. it is historically a phenomenon, even a case i talked about earlier, youngstown, same accusations, that the president's appointed judges tended magically to align themselves with the president. you talk about the supreme court case here, denying that mystery company's wish to get rid of the fines and the contempt, that's exactly the kind of thing that is good for the mueller team. you have it right there, the contempt issue. that's a great thing for the mueller team in the sens...

Korea war and it made it in record time to the supreme court which struck down the president's use of power. more important, justice jackson gave us the framework for analyzing whether or not the president exceeds his or her power when he acts without the approval of congress, in fact, against the will of congress. the short answer, in this third category the president acts and congress opposes, the president usually loses but does not always lose. in fact, in 2015, there was a case in that category where the executive branch actually prevailed. for the most part, when the president acts again...

It certainly suggests a quid pro quo of some kind, any kind of communication that suggested it might give the russians some advantage or valuable information. information is currency in this world of election and campaign success and everything else. so, you have a connection like this between the russians, strongly suggests one of the theories of liability in the manafort case. >> a procedural question before my substantive question, how does this happen? how does manafort's team present a document unredacted? >> i can diagnose this problem. a problem of the last 10 years, as courts have incr...

Interview, shows he is diving into this. he is not just accepting what was submitted to him by the parties. he wants to see the evidence for himself. which is a good thing, i think. it shows this is a very thoughtful, responsible judge who takes this sentencing role seriously. my guess today flynn has a chance of getting out of this with no time required to serve in jail. >> sandra: michael mukasey was on earlier saying there is not a lot of black and white in this case. >> i will agree with that. there is a lot of nuance in a lot of things nowadays. >> sandra: that will happen a short time fr...

Midway through your piece you talk about defenders of the tactics used by robert mueller's team argue his potential witnesses are generally guilty of some crime that lying to f.b.i. may be true. you make this point. but they're targeted not what they may have done. they're targeted for what they may know about the real target about -- about what the real target may have done. can you further make that point? it's a strong one. >> yeah. it's a point that was made by judge ellis in the manafort case. they aren't interested in manafort in his tax and bank problems. they're going after him because...