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Related to some libyan terrorists, his berry being known to authorities. i think this attack, you know it's for the really related to that attack. so i don't think it's -- it's the same thing. i think that itould be that based on thents quite appropriate to lower the threat level. you know this attack -- it doesn't look like it's connected at all to that attack. this -- you know we're learning the next couple of days exactly what happened and how these guys put this together. but it seems like this is a much lower level group, less sophisticated. much less planning needed to carry this out, in...

Connected, don't seem to have been using the same level of sophisticaten as the manchester cell had. it's yet to be seen who these guys were. but certainly the mow dalt of the attack how crude it was doesn't seem to lend itself to the fact that these guys were as internationally tied as the manchester cell was. so therefore i -- i'm not really you know thinking that it was a total mistake to lower the threat level based on what they had as intelligence it may have been perfectly appropriate. >> okay. bobby, thank you for joining us. from the callout we understand it was less than nine months f...

Onbiyell krecell. the manchester cell was more sophisticated than this. the bad news is these attacks keep happening so the extremists are able to draw from a fairly large pool of willing attackers in this country. theresa may said that not only have there been these three terrorist attacks in the last three months but there were also five thwarted attacks. so, five thwarted attacks, three that got through. that's not a terribly good record and i thing thatk that's you're seeing theresa may tau talking very tough and there's a concern we might not be at the end of this. this is the holy month ...