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These things that it is not a representation of a member's district or an incident. it is a loud group -- small group of people disrupting something in many cases for media attention. no offense. it's just -- i think that's -- that necessarily just because they're loud doesn't necessarily mean there are many. >> i'm joined by carin jean-pierre and david jolly, former republican congressman from florida. david, let me start with you. this whole idea that, well, they're organized or so-called anger. this is like the way politics works, right? we can all agree that maybe they're not representativ...

I'm for border enforcement, border control, not for amnesty. i will work with whoever our nominee is to make sure that that person wins and then to make sure we run on a platform so that we have a mandate election so that in 2017 we do what we need to do to get this country back on track to solve this country's big problems that are getting worse by the day. >> you are the leader of the republican party, you and senate majority leader mitch mcconnell right now i know when there is a nominee that person will become the leader of the party, but you are that person for now and you've said you nee...

Break going through how do we come up with an agenda that is bottom up, that is organic, that's listening to americans and members of congress to assemble an agenda to put on paper and give that to the unk, show that to the country, run on that in 2016 so that people can really choose an agenda. if we win, then we have a mandate election. we have a retreat in ten days where we're going to go start working on this and rolling this out as the year goes on. >> i think what you're saying here is really new and profound. i want to get into more detail. stay right there. we'll pick it up there when ...

This race was a 51/49 race no matter what i think the window is wider. now you're having a large debate and we're going to get a mandate election. >> the reality is that, that ryan has not won this argument within the proub electorate. when you look at the polling on medicare, it's not just democrats and independents who oppose the kind of change that ryan is advocating. and he is a very effective advocate for what he's trying to do. but there's still a majority of republicans who do not like the idea of a premium support program. this will be a big test of whether ryan and romney can effectiv...

>> let me take a step back and get your impression. one of the things that we've already seen just on this program so far is that i don't think, who are real allies of paul ryan who are not in a position to defend -- >> i didn't hear what rich wants this morning so far which is republicans going out there and defending the ryan plan on medicare in a way and going on offense. >> let's be clear it's what rich wants that matters. >> did not sound like a guy who wants to have that conversation. and i think that this is going to be the struggle. i am fascinated by the fact, look, i don't think you ...