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The federal level now. and so, we saw this coming. they used it for months to try and push their agenda. but court after court continues to say there are a number of problems with this vaccine mandate for the private sector and for the government. >> bret: all right. bill, the administration surely is going to appeal this. it is going to go forward. >> what is the argument from the mandate side? is it it the public good and is did is it legally tenable? can you make that case in the court of law? >> well, it certainly the public good and it depends on which mandate you are talking about, what ...

I'm for reducing mandates across the board in regards to the vaccinations. people will make the right decision over time when he get the right information. so, sure, tyson's requires vaccination, their rate goes up. others are urging it to happen in their workplace. it goes up there as well. i think it's a balance, but what works in arkansas is not the mandate side of it, but it's the education side and businesses have been the prerogative to make their own decisions without the government telling them what to do. >> arkansas requires children entering schools to be vaccinated for diphtheria, ...

Them to do that. i'm for reducing mandates across the board in regards to the vaccinations. people will make the right decision over time when they get the right information. so, sure, tyson's required vaccination, their rate goes up. others are urging it to happen in their workplace. it goes up there as well. i think it's a balance, but what works in arkansas is not the mandate side of it, but it's the education side and businesses have been the prerogative to make their own decisions without the government telling them what to do. >> arkansas requires children entering schools to be vaccinat...

Kennedy and bill clinton. >> it's about policy you guys aren't paying attention. >> you don't believe in any policy. you back somebody like donald trump who is not -- >> -- you're hysterical. >> -- it is. [ overlapping speakers ] >> we're getting far field. >> that's right. >> we're going off about republican party. rebecca i want to bring this in. today the white house advisor gary cohn said we got to get taxes down this year by now throwing in obama in the individual mandate how do you think it will impact the bill's chances of passing. >> on the senate side it could tomsulaly help. actually...

Throwing in the repeal of obamacare, the individual mandate. how do you think this will impact the bill's chances of passing? >> well on the senate side, it could actually help. this is the republican bet they're making at this point at least, that they are trying to save some money on the mandate side. so they're thinking, as people decide not to have insurance, no the to sign up for medicaid, not to receive the csrs from the government, that they can save money and send that money over to child deduction, to some of these individual tax savings, that, for example, the state and local tax ded...