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Are very difficult, right? we know how difficult it's been in the engagements in iraq and afghanistan, but we also know when we look at syria today, which is a country in disintegration, probably well over 150,000 people dying now and no end in sight, or if we look at libya where we did intervene through air power alone, changed the government but it is a mess and exporting its problems across the middle east. what we have to understand rather than saying, you know, who is to blame for this is to say, what is the nature of this threat and how do we counter it? >> but what you're saying is that...

Afghanistan, but we also know when we look at syria today, which is a country in disintegration, probably well over 150,000 people dying now and no end in sight, or if we look at libya where we did intervene through air power alone, changed the government but it is a mess and exporting its problems across the middle east. what we have to understand rather than saying, you know, who is to blame for this is to say, what is the nature of this threat and how do we counter it? >> but what you're saying is that you have to call it what it is, and you can't be reluctant to act. and on this program la...

David brooks has been widely quoted this week, the conservative "new york times" columnist was on nbc's "meet the press" and had this to say about foreign policy. >> let's face it, obama deservedly or not, does have -- i'll say it crudely -- but a manhood problem in the middle east. is he tough enough to stand up to someone like putin. in the middle east, there's an assumption he's not tough. >> he's talked to president obama a number of times. he's not an obama hater. you wouldn't think he'd go there with that manhood phrase. >> very alpha male. if you show the rest of the clip, chuck todd ag...

Kind of rebellion. i think that the problem is, my colleague ash eric wimple said you don't get bundy a la carte. you get the whole package. >> "the new york times" deserves credit for revealing these remarks. it was an audio tape. actually, a videotape that helped somebody on the cell phone. you were making that point earlier. finally, the times put the racist portion on the jump of the story. i'm burying the lead. everybody else knew what the lead was. send me a tweet @howardkurtz. ahead, my interview with mariel hemingway. are the pundits being a bit too harsh when they say the presiden...

David brooks has been widely quoted this week, the conservative "new york times" columnist was on nbc's "meet the press" and had this to say about foreign policy. >> let's face it, obama deservedly or not, does have -- i'll say it crudely -- but a manhood problem in the middle east. is he tough enough to stand up to someone like putin. in the middle east, there's an assumption he's not tough. >> he's talked to president obama a number of times. he's not an obama hater. you wouldn't think he'd go there with that manhood phrase. >> very alpha male. if you show the rest of the clip, chuck todd ag...