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Grounds just outside the walls. what was life like? it slowed down for me and my family a little bit but it was good. if there wasn t much happening in grant inside the prison it was the opposite. there was a new warden determined to shake things up. his name was jack. i didn t sit behind my desk a lot. i was out in the yard with the guys. i let inmates call me jack. one inmate is randolph. he was an unforgettable character, intelligent, manipulative, a quick study meaning that i wasn t going to have trouble with him so we hit it off. dial was one of the most infamous inmates in oklahoma, a murderer who confessed to killing a karate instructor for money. he told me to get off of his property and i fired once. one of his features were on ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190805:04:06:00

In 1992, he was named deputy warden at the oklahoma state retomorrow tor reformato reformatory. they lived on prison grounds, just outside the wall. what was life like in granite? it slowed down for me and my family a little bit, but it was good. if there wasn t much happening in granite, inside the prison it was the opposite. there was a new warden, determined to shake things up. his name, jack. i didn t sit behind my desk a lot. i was out in the yard with the guys. i let inmates call me jack. and one inmate that got his attention, randolph dial. he was an unforgettable character. intelligent, manipulative. a quick study. meaning that i wasn t going to have any trouble with him. so we hit it off. dial of one of the most illustrious and infamous inmates in oklahoma back then. a murderer who confessed to killing a karate instructor for ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190602:08:34:00

But canno lawyered up, so she tried gordon still in a wheelchair after his bike accident. hi, steven, how are you? and i knew this was going to be a lot different than any other interview i had done. he s cunning, manipulative. reporter: he didn t have to talk to you? he did not have to talk to me. are you cold? if you don t mind. reporter: but detective trapp has a way as they say. you acted compassionate. you were kind to him. you brought him a blanket, food. yes, we actually shared two meals together. it is spicy. i told you, i told you, be careful. reporter: even so, gordon was reluctant at first. i got nausea. would you rather talk to anybody else? i don t want to talk to anybody. he watched me very carefully, if i swallowed too hard, if i looked at him differently, he ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190526:06:38:00

reporter: luken discovered darker secrets as well. john supplied the opioids that killed his own addicted brother. he was alone with his sick father when the old man died rather suddenly. john wasn t charged in those cases, but there were others, said luken, and as the years went on, he developed a certain criminal specialty. he would go on dating websites and he would find women that usually had good financial backing. he always told people he was a doctor. he seemed like an ideal catch, i suppose. yes. fer for a lot of these women. he was a true conman. he d take their money and when they would find out about him, john would threaten em, he would terrorize em. reporter: how bad was he? john was the most dangerous, treacherous, manipulative, deceitful, criminal that i d investigated in 40 years of law enforcement. reporter: once terra learned ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190525:08:37:00

And here began atoning for the sins of his youth by devoting his life to three little kids, eva, ariel and alex. it was after all that that they held the trial. prosecutor lisette suder intended to portray todd as a manipulative and devious man who murdered not one wife but two. that is if she could persuade a california judge to allow an old georgia case to be dusted off and brought back to life. i felt confident that i had the law behind me on that. and i submitted my brief, and i submitted the legal arguments that supported that. reporter: and? she won. and so, in september of 2014, when todd winker went on trial charged with first-degree murder of second wife rachel, lisette suder could use the georgia story about first wife cathy s death 15 years earlier against him. ....

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