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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:14:00

Charges, to establish that donald trump, his mind-set, cannot be, he believed that the election was stolen so he was allowed to do what he was doing? not very. and for three reasons. first, it s not simply the reason who told him, but the people who heard him say it. cassidy hutchinson, others heard him say he lost. second, it doesn t matter in terms of the charges, even if he thinks he won. that doesn t mean you can go in and try to forestall the vote and have, you know, and let loose the marauders. and third, because basically this is going to come down to an overarching course of conduct that ends with january 6th itself, and his inaction during those days during that hour and a half will speak volumes. finally, he can t testify. if you think about it, it s ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Yasmin Vossoughian Reports 20240604 18:10:00

Examination. but russell s importance because he is with trump for a lot of january six itself. so, it s not just a state of mind it s his words and i think he said, it s possible that grand jury itself said we would like to really get at the nuances here. but when someone is coming in for the third time you know a, is not a super friendly witness, because of you are just interview him, and, because testimony is important. i think we ll russell is both of those, and in particular, because he is around trump so much during january six. who knows what kind of we hear he was jubilant with trump during that time, what exactly did he say that would really make it clear that this was going exactly according to plan when the marauders were storming the capital? all right, before we let you go, i want people to the classified documents case. the doj wanted this trial to start in december. trump s team wanted to start after that 2024 election, and ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Yasmin Vossoughian Reports 20240604 18:08:00

So far in this letter, could something like this or other charges be added? or actually appear in an indictment and not in that target letter? but for entered to that is no. a target letter really does lay out the charges and gives trump or any defendant a chance to come in. of course, it could appear. but i think this represents a very considered judgment, not just by jack smith, but all the way up. seditious conspiracy in itself has a checkered history. you are right that they used to against some of the leaders of the marauders, like stewart rhodes. but it runs in the first amendment issues, potentially. remember, trump kind, of in a contrived way, slips and, will be peaceful in his ellipse speech. i think they ve decided that that is trouble they don t want to borrow, and they can get almost there under 241. so, i expect that the decision has been made. ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:15:00

He s now in overdrive. i don t think there s a faster gear. and we went through this in mar-a-lago, but the definition of the target letter is so close, you can bet it s gone through the leadership of the department. in terms of speed, the big question will be, and glenn s comments refer to it, he can do a small, medium, and large basic case and the pivotal question will be will he actually go after trump for the january 6th conduct itself. it s true that it would be very fraught legally. on the other hand, the department has already gone that way with the marauders themselves and gone that way with charging the president. but in any event, i think we can see expectations something to do with the false electors and probably something to do with the fund-raising itself. ....

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