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captured. chris joining us, national border patrol council spokesman. chris, this was dumped on the media late last night and i always find that -- i wouldn't call amusing, but telling because the assumption is that it will get lost assuming there are no news shows on the weekend and you're on one now that's live so we're talking about it. what do you make of that number and what it's telling you and what you've been reporting and telling folks for quite some time? >> well, you know, that number, quite honestly, is staggering. you know, a few years ago, 50,000 was a large number, you...

And the least preferred alternative was global recession and that would bring down prices. that looks like 100% the least preferred alternative is the most likely outcome, but i think that the numbers show that the energy prices are going to be one of the last things reflected in the recessionary impacts on that. we're witnessing this global game of energy whack-a-mole where just where we think we have one crisis resolved, another one pops up its head. i haven't seen it. the crisis this week new england natural gas supplies, for example. neil: and explain that. >> well, you know, new england i...

Gas meter it looks like a zip code right there. wait, it's -- i was down in florida yesterday and i bought gas it was 5 bucks a gallon, it was premium self-serve. nonetheless it's killing people. >> it really is taking its toll. the united states policy to cut off russian oil imports the biden administration out of deference to john kerry, the climate czar and the radical left that helped them get into office. they end up running off it iran and venezuela. i don't believe that we should be relying on any dictators. we should be relying on any terrorist that runs the world's largest state spons...

Energy industry, right? constitution. there was no quid pro quo. courthouse. coming up. >> that is probably correct, ainsley: supporting, wait, what next up, we expect two hours, yeah. am i reading? we are energy-driven in deputy assistant secretary of pennsylvania. sporting support for our men and steve: i know the pet is defense laura cooper to appear women in blue. going to go to that the girls soccer team dressed up conference once again later behind closed doors. as officers for a halloween today, probably see steve: if the past is prolong, highlights of it right here tournament to honor ...

Winner of up with chris hayes most valuable player award. >> why, thank you, sir. chris mentioned rick santorum and the marcella shale. i am not paid by an energy company but i am an enthusiast myself. there's a utica -- ohio, a state that's important and that president obama needs to think hard about winning in the tax loopholes for oil companies. one of the loopholes is expensing for drilling new wells. the thing is that there are tens of billions of dollars of new investment flowing into ohio, a state that's been ravaged, hard hit by sort of economic changes the last several decades. now it...