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Likewise, people in georgia, people in arizona, and elsewhere, the good thing is, though, that it's not really -- we found it's not really a question of red versus blue. a lot of these people who did stand up and tell the truth were people who were republicans and even trump supporters, but they had the information. they had the facts. and having that, they were able to say, hold on. the conspiracy that you're spinning is false. it's not true, and i'm not going to go along with that, and so what it tells us is that it's not red vs. blue. it's truth vs. lie, and that's a line that's drawn throu...

Are not there next time. >> yes. they are in michigan and there's a longtime county clerk who made a mistake on election day. she accidentally shifted about 3000 votes from trump to biden. it wasn't very a computer savvy -- she quickly corrected the mistake within a few hours. but by the time she did there were private jets on the way, teams that were working with trump were coming to her office. they really turned her life inside. out and she, as a result, did not run again to be county clerk. because people, very versatile because that she had, sign accused her of being anti patriotic and an...

As much. >> of course, pence didn't come true in the end. but the electoral count wasn't the only way trump was trying to stay in power. a detailed in the excellent new book, the steele, had efforts to steal in multiple states. it only because an ordinary state, election workers that democracy managed to -- >> mark bowden and matthew teague join me now. i sort of go to each of you because there's a lot in here and a sort of ground eye of this. we sort of did a version of it up in washington, d.c.. in the white house and also on the capital. mark bowden and then matthew teague maybe. what did y...

These election officials, a lot of them republicans, a lot of them voted for trump at every level, local and statewide, and small localities and in big states like georgia and arizona. all of them would have been well-served by a guardrail in washington, a senate majority leader or house minority leader who said, you know what? we loved him. we love all those judges, but enough. and i wonder if they feel that some of the blame lies with this sort of zombie posture from republicans in washington as he spent all those days between november and january repeating these lies. again, to you, mark. >...

Know, take the blame. it's that simple. >> reporter: you know, i think this failure to learn from or even acknowledge what happened on january 6th, along with what we're seeing now, this sort of campaign to get election deniers, to make them election officials, it really doesn't bode well for the upcoming midterms and for future elections in this country, brianna. >> no, it certainly doesn't. it is an alternative reality that we see you unveiling there. thank you so much, donie. >> thanks. joining us now is mark bowden, contributing writer for the "atlantic." we have the co-authors of the bo...