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That peer pressure and dynamic that goes on. >> wolf -- >> jose, a second. benjamin, go ahead and respond to that. >> mark, i do think my clients understand that and she said she wanted to offer an apology to trayvon's parents i think they and sybrina said the christian thing to do is accept the apology but she really wishes she fought harder because that's what she would do if that was her child. one vote, the prosecutors could have said your vote is your vote. you said you had the evidence there. you didn't have to be persuaded. you didn't have to justify your vote to anybody, and -- >> you ...

Would like to raise another possibility. these jurors were sequestered. they didn't know what a big deal this case turned out to be. i think it's entirely possible that maddi is reacting as much to the public reaction to the verdict as she is to the evidence. this case, you know, you have the president of the united states talking about it. you have demonstrations all over the country in reaction to the verdict. this is not a pure laboratory example of someone talking about the verdict that she reached in the jury room. she's now reacting to the whole public spectacle of this case and i think ...

Courtroom she made the determination. her vote was second-degree murder. now in that deliberation, maybe i want says mark said the five people wore her down, and they may be the case. >> it's clearly the case, yeah. >> i just wanted to say to mark's point that i believe the instructions are confusing in a lot of ways. so what you want the jury to do is be empowered. i thank the prosecutors for bringing the case because a lot wouldn't no matter what the evidence was -- >> very quickly, mark, go ahead. >> i was going to say, i agree with jeff's point about the fact you have a sequestered jury an...

Was her first thought to convict hip of second-degree murder and that's important. there were other people on the jury that persuaded her based on the instructions given, she could not vote her conviction to find him guilty, and that's real troubling because we do think the evidence was there, and that was her first thought, and i know tracy and sybrina, it certainly is devastating when they hear stuff like this because they desperately wanted those jurors to vote to hold the killer of their child accountable. and they -- as sabrina said, she would have fought harder if that would have been he...

But to vote not guyty. however, b-37 seems to hold a more charitable view of mr. zimmerman's actions that night. joining us tonight martin family attorney benjamin crump, getting his first look at the jurors account and jeffrey toobin and jose bias and mark cgeragos. jeff, let's start with you. juror b-29 said zimmerman was guilty but could not vote for guilt on second-degree murder or manslaughter because as the law was read to her, and i'm quoting now, you have no proof that he killed him intentionally. those were her words sdch. does that make sense to you? >> that's a garbled reading of th...