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And i wouldn't even say chicago. i'm thinking parts of chicago. the term hypersegregation was coined because of how segregated chicago as a major city is, which is somewhat different than a lot of other major cities. >> hypersegregation? >> yeah. >> what is that? i lived here. i think i get what that means. >> we think of major cities are somehow more progressive, somehow further along in the intellectual thought process of inclusiveness and diversity. chicago reminds us that is not always the case. >> in chicago, is it a sense it's happening, not a reason it's happening? put on people, they'r...

Chicago, the south side and the west side? >> not really. >> so, why do you think those neighborhoods are so much worse? >> lower income, lower development, no jobs. >> yeah, and those seem to be the black neighborhoods. >> they're not the white neighborhoods. i actually used to work over there. police would stop, i'd catch the bus. the police would stop and ask me if i needed a ride because i was in the wrong neighborhood. >> really? i don't think i would surprise you by saying no police officers ever asked me if i needed a ride. >> i wouldn't be surprised. maybe not in the front seat. [ laug...

Music is always the voice for the street. and for some, it's a path out of those streets. so my last stop is a legendary blues club in chicago where malik accomplished something that was once thought to be impossible. he's gathered two generations of gang members, old-school do or die crew and new school artists like jay-z protege. if you're just tuning in, i'm dr. cornell west. do these guys all know each other? >> not really. >> they all know you? >> yeah. >> but don't know each other? >> not really. >> is that anything that can lead to an issue? >> yeah, definitely. >> okay. all right. even...

Don't know they are cool with each other? >> nah, nah. >> not only have they not met each other, it becomes instantly apparent to me they have no idea who the hell i am. this room felt like the tension, and i was cast in the role of the uncool vice principal. >> i live in california now and when i tell people i was coming out to chicago, everybody was like -- there's this weird thing. uh-oh. >> get shot. >> yeah, you're going to get shot. you have to join a gang and this nonsense. >> when i hear people talk about coming to chicago and they are afraid to even come to the city, what they don't r...

Martin in 2012, three activists started a hashtag, black lives matter. they had this crazy idea that, i don't know, maybe it shouldn't be cool to kill black people for no reason. their hashtag has turned into a movement has sparked a necessary but for some reason polarizing debate. polarizing for some people because for them, shouldn't it be all lives matter? have you heard the phrase black lives matter? >> yeah. >> what do you think about it? >> i don't know if it's a color thing, but i think every life matters. >> see. what does the phrase black lives matter mean to you? >> that is a touchy ...