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court ruling that didn't go his way. top court dealing with affirmative action. that means merit agains and the media will need a fainting couch. >> the worst thing about affirmative action is that it created a clarence thomas. >> clarence thomas has criticized affirmative action and we know that's why he's on the supreme court. >> i think this is sticking dag dag dager in our back. >> we will see that segregation become wider and wider. >> what's next, gay marriage? >> is this leading to no women in colleges soon? who knows. >> no women in college. we can dream. i joke. biden wasn't...

a debate coming up. >> john: begin with the supreme court hearing arguments today on what could be one of the most consequential rulings for higher education in decades. hello, john roberts in washington and hello to you this afternoon. >> gillian: good to be with you, john, on this spooky halloween. >> john: good to be with you as well. >> gillian: i'm gillian turner. whether to end affirmative action policies in a pair of cases. >> john: opponents argue the criteria has harmed millions of students, particularly asian-americans. david spunt starts us off live outside the supreme cou...

murder. that was the real racist part. he saw them outside of himself. >> a way to go to heaven. he did not see them as human. he had to preserve his christianity as all causes. a double marginalize -- they were not doubly marginalized. he perceived them as sex workers. he perceived them as ex sex wors and asian. that was the racist part of him. that's overt obvious racism. >> right. these are the things that we need to dig into as both of us do in therapy to figure out what's going on. there is so much strange to fit it in the box when sometimes it is like porn, you know it when you...

you got to see what happened in atlanta as an opportunity. i don't know what we're going to find out, about what this shooter understands of his own motives. i am, certainly, not giving him any excuses. but, is there any, other reason, other than the obvious here, for why he targeted asian-american women? even if it was a sex thing, why did it have to be them? why were they the object of his desire? or his affliction? and even if the analysis is strained -- >> i could tell you. >> it's not your turn, yet. even if the analysis is strained, we have to recognize their reality because it...

morning. a lot going on. >> yeah, there is. >> we have important new developments after the murder of eight people in georgia. six of them asian women. asian-americans on edge in the u.s. and you can understand why. authorities are noting the suspect claims the shootings were not racially motivated. but he says were the result of sexual addiction. a sheriff's deputy facing backlash for this description of the suspect's frame of mind. >> he understood the gravity of it. and he was pretty much fed up and had been kind of at the end of his rope and yesterday was a really bad day for him...