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>> there is a question of when unsustainability bites you in the bottom. i am saying it is not near term. >> sean: $16 trillion -- at what trillion-dollar mark debtwise, do you say, uh-oh, we near trouble. >> if it were that simple, you need the economists. the rest of the world matters. [overlapping dialogue] >> sean: i think he is more in my camp. >> absolutely. >> sean: we are right and you are wrong. >> it doesn't mean that, sean. >> sean: congratulations on the book. >> thank you very much. >> sean: appreciate you being with us. >> cheers. >> coming up, academy award nominee andy garcia s...

>> there is a question of when unsustainability bites you in the bottom. i am saying it is not near term. >> sean: $16 trillion -- at what trillion-dollar mark debtwise, do you say, uh-oh, we near trouble. >> if it were that simple, you need the economists. the rest of the world matters. [overlapping dialogue] >> sean: i think he is more in my camp. >> absolutely. >> sean: we are right and you are wrong. >> it doesn't mean that, sean. >> sean: congratulations on the book. >> thank you very much. >> sean: appreciate you being with us. >> cheers. >> coming up, academy award nominee andy garcia s...