>> there is a question of when unsustainability bites you in the bottom. i am saying it is not near term. >> sean: $16 trillion -- at what trillion-dollar mark debtwise, do you say, uh-oh, we near trouble. >> if it were that simple, you need the economists. the rest of the world matters. [overlapping dialogue] >> sean: i think he is more in my camp. >> absolutely. >> sean: we are right and you are wrong. >> it doesn't mean that, sean. >> sean: congratulations on the book. >> thank you very much. >> sean: appreciate you being with us. >> cheers. >> coming up, academy award nominee andy garcia sat down with sean to discuss his immigration from -- emigration from cuba and how that inspired his performance in the new film "for greater glory. " s. i like taking advil® for a headache. it nips it in the bud. and i can be that mommy that i want to be.