Those arguments don't understand the second amendment. you know, she has voted with trump 55% of the time. she supported his political nominees as well. it just depends on the issue. she says she is an independent voice. she is going do what's best for north dakotans. >> very, very quickly, did you come away thinking heitkamp was in a stronger or weaker position than you expected? >> i think she is in a stronger position than i expected, yeah. >> leigh anne caldwell, no your time tonight. i appreciate it. coming up, mark dunk's upcoming testimony on capitol hill. "kasie dc" back right after ...