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january 6th committee zeroing in on what could be a key phone call. a source telling nbc news the call was made from from her president trump to a support staffer, it may be rando but the aid is in talk with the select committee. the backdrop to all of it, 2024, with a new interview out today with the former president, saying he's made up his mind about whether or not to try again for the white house and that announcement may be sooner than you think. one of the reporters behind this group is here live. the abortion law that indiana is asking them to put back on the books and who...

Have plans to be able to run. and i do think the context of the last month is really important in this conversation, in that, this has been a really rough last month for the former president, from the revelations that we ended up giving from the january 6th committee, certainly, the last two committee hearings in particular, one with cassidy hutchinson, as well as the focus on the people who ended up storming the capitol, and so, when we are kind of looking at the potential plans for the former president, and running, i do think that the clouds over him whether it's on january 6th, the potenti...

Because "the washington post" reports that it could be good for his best interests. if the government shuts down, it could affect social security payments, the cdc's ability to respond to outbreak could be slowed. how do you see the president spinning this as a victory? he could try. >> he's no spinning. a government shutdown says one thing, we can't govern and the republicans are in power. there's no upside for a government shutdown for the party in power. zero. >> what do you think, david? >> i totally agree with that. the last time a government shutdown actually benefited someone politicall...

I guess he could try. >> not spinable. there's no history to support that. a government shutdown equals one thing. it says we can't govern and the republicans are in power. there's no up side to a government shutdown for the party in power. zero. >> what do you think, david? >> i totally agree with that. the last time a government shutdown actually benefited someone politically is when republicans shut down the government when bill clinton was president, because he refused a deal that would have cut medicare and that turned out to be a political disaster for the republicans. but in this case, ...

Forced to because of three members. bob corker and jeff flake as well as ron johnson. what they're concerned about is what we have been talking about over the past week and it's been really solidified today is that this tax cut bill is really going to add a trillion dollars to the deficit. if you're a conservative and the definition of a conservative is that you are a deficit hawk, you don't want to add to the fact that we have 21, $22 billion that were in the hole. that's what they're dealing with. >> the triggers in two or three or four years, if the deficit continues to grow, much more robu...