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For two years, and by the way, whilst it's doing that, we should be investing in renewables. we should be doing insulation... the reason over the last ten years the uk had the biggest _ renewables roll—out, - the last 12 years, biggest i renewables roll—out of any developed l economy, and that was because we had a really certain framework. you could come in, l get your investment, you knew what the payback was going to be. _ if you start messing with that certainty, | you're not going to be able to repeat the trick. - but in a world where actually even the market will say the sort of profi...

The reason over the last ten| years the uk had the biggest renewables roll—out, - the last 12 years, biggest renewables roll—out - of any developed economy, and that was because we had a really certain framework. . but in a world where actually even the market will say the sort of profits that we're seeing in the energy market, for producers and generators, they're supernormal profits. they weren't banking on it. it wasn't in their investment pipeline, it wasn't in their programme for giving dividends. these are supernormal profits, which actually, when you look at the scale of it, a lot o...

Inflation eats into those worker gains and goldilocks, well, she's wearing a mask. omicron and delta are racing through millions of unvaccinated people. that is obviously not good for public health, public policy and market certainty. it is impossible to predict what happens next. but where are we right now? the fed chief suspects the economy will grow 5% this year. that's the most robust expansion since the regan administration. >> it seems like this is one of those times where the perception and the reality have not quite matched up. >> it's because we're exhausted from covid and it's becaus...

Do you see it continuing? he likes to point to those markets. do you think it's is continuing? >> the answer is yes. the presidents don't make markets and don't break markets. the stock is up 200% since 2010. we are seeing a full recovery of the sell-off as we've seen every time here in market history and more so that we've seen over the last ten years, the market have bounced back. we are seeing stability. market certainty, and we are seeing interest rates. we are seeing gold go back down. this is all very much a positive for this to continue. >> neil: this notion that you might not flip over...

Of getting their profit from the market than relying on the government. >> now, this was obviously as i said in the summer, before nafta 2.0, but if farmers don't want a handout, they want a long-term solution, what are they looking for? >> looking for markets stability. and they had it before these trade wars kicked in. farmers over the last decade and a half have had pretty darn good years when you look at data. they would agree i think. looking for more market certainty. trade wars when you don't know if the tariff will be on in the next growing season or off, it disrupts that certainty you...