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Marks, president of the marks group. he joins us now from philly i think. thanks for being on. appreciate it. >> sure. great to be here. >> you're not an investor, you're at home, you're watching this, you're freaking out about your 401k. >> you really shouldn't be. first of all -- >> did you say should or shouldn't be? >> you should not be freaking out. in fact, i don't think you should be paying attention to all these crazy swings and stock prices over the past couple of days. it is a little nuts to see. somebody on wall street is making a lot of money, i'm sure. always looking ahead. the bo...

If you're calling to promote yourself, it's somewhat offputting. >> we now have the top two tips you need to know to help your business grow. let's introduce our panel and get their advice. the founder and ceo of broughton hotels, and the author of the new book "victory." seven revolutionary strategies for entrepreneurs to el gate your impact and tran form your life. and the president and founder of the marks group, selling software and services to small and medium sized businesses and a columnist on the "washington post". >> thanks for joining us, everyone. see you later. gene, let's start wi...

Approachable. three, even if your business is primarily brick and mortar, have an online presence. it helps you build brand loyalty and awareness. four, define and create your voice top everyone in the company understands what it is. no matter who on your team is doing the responding, people should feel like they're speaking with your company, not each separate individual. and five, work on your seo. you can't have a relationship with someone who doesn't even know you exist. so make sure your small business is showing up at the top of search results. . we now have the top two tips you need t...

Jean marks is ahead of the marks group. great to have you here. >> gene, we love having you on the show, cindy, i'm glad this finally worked out. i have been trying to get you on the show for a year now, you really know business, your last business turned out to be a billion dollar company, the female viagra. now you're working with small companies -- >> that's right. >> so we're just thrilled to get to hear what you think about growing a business. let's start with your tips. >> my top tip, you need to invest in yourself before you ask others to invest in you. in the post shark tank world, we ...

>> there are of course many, many more entrepreneurial businesses. gene marks is the head of the marks group, providing technology and consulting services to small and medium businesses. and julie hannah entrepreneur and investor a board director. so good to see both of you guys. >> it's interesting you use the word genius. to be a genius, it's more than coming up with a good product, right? we can be smart and good business people. but you look at someone like jeff bezos. i would say he is a genius. what separates the two? >> people have creative genius. we all have different definitions what...