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Ghislaine maxwell trial, the indictment of jeffrey epstein, the idea that these were, quote, unquote massages and would often turn sexual, that's where the alleged sexual abuse occurred. when you look at this, he goes through -- they had a whole process set up to bring in these underage girls. they had no experience. they were recruited. they were brought in, and it matches a lot of the evidence that we heard during the maxwell trial. it just shows the type of machine in a really horrible way that he had set up to be able to get these women in to commit horrible crimes against them. >> do we h...

We had a terrible delta wave in the south and texas, in the southern states, not so much in the northern states and now it's the inverse. >> okay. thank you for all the information. we'll talk again soon. >> thank you. so for the first time, the jury in the maxwell trial has asked for transcripts from defense witnesses. what does that tell us about which direction they're heading? and next, the life of harry reid. >> how do you hope you'll be remembered? >> i have five children. i want those children, grandchildren to understand what a love affair i've had. >> more important than any of yo...

Reporting on the cdc's decisions to relax guidelines as cases hit record numbers. plus, we'll have the renewed questions of what constitutes being fully vaccinated. good morning, welcome to "morning joe," it's thursday, december 30th, i am willie geist, with us the host of "way too early," jonathan lemire and susan docille. good morning, guys. first, the verdict of the trial of jeffery epstein's long time associate, ghislaine maxwell found guilty yesterday. >> reporter: the jury found maxwell guilty including five charges and sex trafficking of minors and carries 40 years

Specific events and who was there was foggy at times which made this case very challenging. so you know if you start trying to track down other people, i think it's going to get harder harder to go after them. >> julie, susan here, one amazing reporting if not for you so many women would not have had here voices heard. i am curious if you think there will be more of an opportunity for their voices to even be heard further in the sense of coming forward and what other things whether it's civil cases or other avenues for them to pursue again just to tell their story and get a lot of other women ...