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They're not decisions for the president for all sorts of good reasons, because the prosecution power is immense. and, you know, can turn anyone's life upside down. so the whole idea is the justice department makes these on a nonpolitical basis. and here you've got trump pardoning his friends like sheriff joe arpaio and dinesh d'souza and really effectively throwing the book at other people, including his political enemies that started with the campaign and "lock her up." i guess that wasn't successful, but some of the other ones appear to be starting to gain some traction, including mccabe. >>...

Fax, but just as an interpretive matter that i don't think are reasonable. and this one is actually much worse than the other one in that regard. so, look, he's -- he's somebody who has a real reputation, and i don't want to speak to motive. i do think this is a deficient piece of work product. >> when you talk about both reports, this and proceeding andrew mccabe, the ig report on andrew mccabe that -- sorry, go ahead, ben. >> i was actually referring to a different one. i have a kind of open mind about his report on andrew mccabe. i was talking about the one about the clinton email investiga...

Andrew mccabe, the ig report on andrew mccabe that -- sorry, go ahead, ben. >> i was actually referring to a different one. i have a kind of open mind about his report on andrew mccabe. i was talking about the one about the clinton email investigation and the sort of judgments that the team and that comey made in that regard. the mccabe one, i actually don't know how much of that report is fair and how much of it is unfair, in part because there still has been no forum in which mccabe. >> right. >> has sought to answer the allegations that he's -- were made against him in that report in a subs...