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Don mcgan, one of the oldest serving members, he not together with the federalist society and said we're not going to be caught with another suit. maybe a chief justice john roberts. they know who these people are. these people are already vetted. that's why when you look at whether or not he's going to ask the question, that's what makes this one so different. and this president, and don mcgan and the federalist society and mcconnell and grassley, they have come full force and have handled this in a lot of ways, better than the democrats have in the past. that i have caught the democrats a li...

Joining me arian dezero. answer my question, arian? >> the thing is the democrats have in a bind. you've seen chuck schumer come out and said, we're not going to have hearings, saying we'll do everything we can to stop it. there's another set of democrats, they don't think that that's going to work. they think that they've got a push-back in garlin and they have to think about a strategy going forward to peel off votes. one thing they're going to do is look at roe v. wade. they're going to say, look, even if the court doesn't overturn precedent, it can chip it away to nothing. and they'll look...

Handled this in a lot of ways, better than the democrats have in the past. that i have caught the democrats a little bit flat-footed. >> it all seems that way. you know better than anybody this is a beauty pageant. and you're not going to learn anything in this confirmation process unless there's a huge gap. arian, joan thank you very much. enjoy the rest of your friday night. one thing you don't often hear about, the legal battles being fought far from the supreme court. i'm beginning to argue to you tonight at the end of the show that the judges are everything in assessing the trump admini...

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