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al sand -- alexandria hoff with the latestest on all of this. >> reporter: so the president tried to the use the 2003 heroes act as a route to usher in this loan forgiveness plan. of course, the supreme court shot that down yesterday. now biden administration is looking at something called the higher education act as a means to the become a plan b. >> we're not going to waste any time on this. we're getting moving on it -- it's going to take longer, but we're getting at it right away. >> reporter: president sd the higher education act will allow the secretary the of education to waiv...

Dunk? >> no, it's not. there's a perception that this guy is weird, creepy, that he's different, and all of that may be the the case. but when you have a capital murder case and the prosecutors are seeking the death penalty, you need a lot more than that before you convict him. you need evidence, you need dna evidence. you need to place him in that house, so prosecutors are being very me me nod -- methodical because you have four innocent people who were butchered. they are doing their jobs, but it's not the slam dunk that everybody thinks it is. alicia: do you think the defense is going to ge...