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Opera of a thing that has to do with this administration and with something that the president feels more strongly about than anything else in his presidency. you might have seen a few days ago that chuck todd from "meet the press" had an interview with president trump. right before the democratic debates last week. and there's a bunch of news in that interview. there's always news when somebody outside the conservative media sphere gets to actually ask the president questions that involve followups and not just him, like, screaming over helicopter noise and all that stuff. we knew there was g...

Here for our lead-off discussion on a wednesday night, peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the "new york times." the aforementioned nancy cook, white house reporter for politico. and general barry mccaffrey, a retired u.s. army four-star general, a heavily decorated combat veteran of vietnam and a u.s. ground commander in the gulf war among other distinguished roles. thanks to the three of you for getting us kicked off on a wednesday night. nancy, donald trump has been wanting to have something that feels like a military parade or a military display for more than two years now. so...

Credibility the justice department has left because of what he's doing. and that will be a huge, huge error for the country and for him. >> so let me ask you something. the justice department lawyers either pull back on this or they go back to the court and try to get this done. but there's no chance that someone in the government is trying to -- is going to try and get that citizenship question on the census extrajudicially, right? going around the courts. doing something -- because i feel like that would be illegal. >> well, nothing that this administration does at this point surprises me. a...

Like no one -- like nobody has been bitten before." what do we make of that? >> well, we're finally getting threats that are equivalent to those used by the north koreans. certainly something that strikes you. it is unlikely that this administration will want war. it would be ruinous to the region. it would be an ugly, bitter fight. of course we can punish the iranians in a very serious way with air power and naval power. but certainly the saudis, the israelis, the iraqis, nobody wants this war to happen. never mind the iranians. the threat piece of it is unlikely to do anything but worsen the...