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>> peggy noonan is a wonderful wordsmith and probably right about the wall word. when the president says i'll call it a barrier, i don't care what you call it. juan and his friends start saying he backed down and he is not even for a wall. we're playing semantic games. >> i don't think it's juan and his friends. it is your fellow republicans. officials who say you know what, there is no national emergency here? a lot of national emergencies but the wall and southern border not one of them. so to me it's a desperation move. i might say conservatives, the idea that conservatives to sum up giving...

He initially considered declaring a national emergency because of the lawsuits and eminent domain issues. you had congressmen in texas along the border saying it's a bad idea. the president feels he has no choice. he has been backed into a corner not just by nancy pelosi but by conservatives who want him to build the wall. >> weren't there over 30 blue dog democrats who said hey, whether it's a wall, barrier, and nancy pelosi is thumbing her nose at her fellow democrats. >> now they're saying it's a fence. they won't say the word wall. >> peggy noonan is right. who cares what to call it? call ...

>> you are sitting here saying oh, the president is not even negotiating. hang on a second. a week and a half or two weeks ago he said i'm willing to do something on daca that democrats have been saying for years. why are you laughing? >> because a year ago the republicans and democrats had a deal that included daca and included a wall and president trump and his side said no deal. >> maybe the president was wrong then. we're here today, juan. >> don't come back and say every time i shift the goalpost it's the democrats. >> sandra: let me put this idea being floated by peggy noonan in the "wal...

>> fascinating to watch it play out in the media. they're using the media to make statements, comment on the wall negotiations, talk about each other. the problem is they aren't talking to each other and they're both undermining the process of good faith negotiations. they're both coming to a conclusion before the negotiators tasked with working something out are able to get anywhere. the president has changed his tune a few times saying it's a wall, call it whatever you want, fencing, now back to a wall is a wall. i think both sides are doing a disservice to negotiators because they are both ...

Formally declare that. there is some ambiguity with executive power move around existing funds in the federal government. the bottom line is he now has the real justification, i believe, to do it because nancy pelosi told him a week or so ago -- a week ago today, open up the government and i'll negotiate. what happened? they set up this bipartisan conference committee. everybody, come together, the lead democrat said a couple days ago everything is on the table as if a wall or a barrier is on the table. nancy pelosi has a news conference yesterday saying not a dollar for a wall. guess what? sh...