Interests. >> finally question of the obama administration which has gone against leakers using prosecution tools and reporters. there is a measure report headed by former "washington post" editor about the administration in which "new york times" reporter is saying this is the most closed, control-from freak administration ever covered. is that fair? >> ing it is fair. what the obama administration has done to make journalism almost a criminal activity when it comes to national security is outrageous. >> thanks for joining us. >> julian assange gave us fugitive c.i.a. contractor that leaked t...