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But at the same time saying the c.i.a. was following the orders of the white house. what about steve's point the report was not presented as partisan document? >> it is a part dawn argument and undercuts the power of what was presented. when you say it is a partisan argument it contradicts the idea being 11-3 vote in the panel for the release of the report. most republicans on the competent said, get it out and they issued a minority report that they think there are serious flaws in the report. to come to the media angle, what strikes me everyone continues to use the terms "enhanceed interroga...

Anymore? and i'm very open to arguments as a fiscal conservative we need to abandon that. >> my fear is that is going to spread. and a lot of these kids, that is what they're going to be doing. >> you're saying that it is not going to spread, kids are already smoking pot. it is not as if us talking here is going to stop it from happening. let me finish my point. anything in excess is bad. alcohol in excess is bad. so the idea that oh, pot o-- >> reading the bible in excess is bad. not everything. >> sean, i have gone to the best schools in this country. and every smokes pot everywhere. >> not ...

Need to abandon that. >> my fear is that that's going to spread. >> you're saying it's going to spread as if it's not already spread. kids are already smoking pot. let me finish my point. anything -- anything in excess is bad. alcohol in excess is bad. so the idea that, oh, pot leads to -- >> reading the bible in excess is bad. not everything. >> i've gone to the best schools in this country and everyone smokes pot everywhere. >> not every kid. >> what i'm saying to you is there is a large number of very productive members of this country and this world who smoke pot. this crazy idea -- >> noa...

>> my fear is that is going to spread and a lot of these kids, that's what they will be doing. >> you're saying it will spread as the it's not already spread. kids are already smoking pot. it's not like us talking here will stop that. let me finish my point. anything in excess is bad. alcohol in excess is bad. the idea that pot leads -- let me say something. hold on, sean, i've gone to the best schools in this country. >> yes, sir. >> everyone smokes p s pot everywhere. >> not every kid. >> there is a large number of protective members of this country and world who smoke pot. this crazy idea. ...

Do you agree with that? >> i think it's a huge obstacle because of that. he had three great attributes. bipartisan, straight-talker, competency. the problem he's got is one of his two strengths are wrong, right? either he wasn't straight with us, or he wasn't competent, right? he wasn't a very -- he wasn't governing very well. so i do think that hurts him. but, joe, how does he get to that? >> that was the question before all of this. and now it's even harder. >> i just say, though, i agree with reverend al here, that if he survives this, he goes to the primary -- >> i'll tell you what i'd do,...