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It pales exponentially compared to what the russians did and the impact that the russians had. even if you accept what i've heard in media articles and this sort of thing, it is -- that's dwarfed exponentially many times over by what the russians did. >> director clapper, stand by because we have more to discuss. for two years the president and the republicans have pushed a conspiracy theory that there was spying on the trump campaign by u.s. intelligence and law enforcement. today it's been debunked officially by president trump's own secretary. the ruling that the president needs to make h...

For the president, say the rumors weren't true. michael mckinley's transcription was released today. he said he left the state department because the career diplomats were being used to advance the political agenda, something he did not support. but more testimony and transcript to be released this week, including that of curt volcker and gordon sondland. michael mckinney gave a statement why he stepped down from mike pompeo. he told the lawmakers he felt the department, and especially pompeo, were not defending yovanovitch against that smear campaign. he said, quote, there were numerous med...

Statement why he stepped down from mike pompeo. one that contradicts his boss' version of events. he told the lawmakers he felt the department, and especially pompeo, were not defending yovanovitch against that smear campaign. he said, quote, there were numerous media articles appearing about yovanovitch and i did grow concerned that we needed to say something forceful on her behalf. how many conversations did you have with the secretary about this matter? three, probably. secretary state pompeo remembers things very differently. >> from the time he told me to he was departing, i never heard h...

The department, and especially pompeo, were not defending yovanovitch against that smear campaign. he said, quote, there were numerous media articles appearing about yovanovitch and i did grow concerned that we needed to say something forceful on her behalf. how many conversations did you have with the secretary about this matter? three, probably. secretary state pompeo remembers things very differently. >> from the time he told me to he was departing, i never heard him say a single thing. >> you for never asked -- >> not once. not once, george, did ambassador mckinley say something to me duri...

Numerous media articles appearing about yovanovitch and i did grow concerned that we needed to say something forceful on her behalf. how many conversations did you have with the secretary about this matter? three, probably. secretary state pompeo remembers things very differently. >> from the time that the ambassador told me he was departing, i never heard him say a single thing. >> you for never asked -- >> not once. not once, george, did ambassador mckinley say something to me during that time period. >> one a television interview, the other under oath. kentucky senator rand paul is joinin...