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What is wrong with us as a society that it took finally hearing his own words, by the way from several years ago, to finally believe dozens and dozens of women? what is wrong with a culture that so strongly does not want to believe women even when they come out in groups and numbers. >> and two dozen strong, many of them credible, many of them famous face, people knew who these alleged victims were. i just asked p.j. before you came up on the set that i still have to call her "accuser." i still have to use the word "accuser" and she said "by this point i'm immune to it. >> let's separate out t...

Is here. >> that's all the greeting he gets? >> he was so helpful. like the great stuff. shall we get to politics? >> no. bill simmons instead. we're talking about new media landscape. willie, set up what happened. this is a guy that created a new wave of media culture. just a blogger out of his house in l.a. wrote like the every fan talked. now he's out at espn. and i think actually it's only going to make his impact even more powerful. >> bill simmons biggest star at the biggest media entity espn had a difficult relationship at times with management. he was suspended late last year

Conservative reform group. the goo who flew his plane into a building, he was a tea partier. so they do this immediately, blame a conservative. even if it's a mass murder. and every one of those examples, can you remember every one of them and ever a media entity taking it back? >> neil: that's not going to happen. wound thing -- one thing i'm amazed, the sequestration cuts. talk about the gift that keeps giving. you can always fall back on that for any bump along the road, and just say, well, if not for that, we -- well -- >> the sequester that president obama came up with, everybody talks ab...

With journalists twice a month. he regularly coe luds -- >> i remember my colleagues i read went to them. >> yeah. but this is a little different, though. the daily collar had a piece out showing media matters. i don't think anyone would call media matters a media entity. they would regularly meet with the white house and collude on narratives. when any other press asked about fast and furious, the white house, department of justice would defer to media matters and their pieces on fast and furious as their answer almost like they were the spokespeople. it goes a little beyond that. i know that...

But also the young girls who were murdered in birmingham -- >> yeah, the innocence. >> and the fire hoses, and the dogs, and, yeah. >> the provocative counter factual i want to ask you, in the environment when the established press does not have the hold as a fact of how many people watch the evening news broadcast, and how many people read "the new york times," is it possible for the kind of social change that we need in the absence of that kind of concentrated media entity? >> i think it's a question of what the social change is. one of the problems that i think that we have had in this coun...