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Second, there are no internet taxes. amazon is now, however, collecting state sales tax nationwide. but president trump's tweet goes beyond attacking the "washington post." the president is very explicitly linking a complaint about a media entity about a threat against the corporation associated with it. did this in an october speech, followed up a string of complaints about the media with this. >> amazon, which through its ownership, controls the "washington post." should be paying massive taxes, but it's not paying. and it's a very unfair playing field. and you see what's happening and what ...

Process and to itemize the specific speaking events, he did so. that is very important context to add to this story, jacob, that we're following. but again, what does all of this tell people, the optics regarding mr. flynn's trustworthiness and credibility? >> i don't think it fundamentally changes the story. we've known for a long time that flynn gave a paid speech celebrating the anniversary of rt. it's not exactly secret information that rt is a russian enterprise and exists to advance the interests of russia. this doesn't tell us anything new about what flynn's relationship with rt was. it...

Demanding that the press fact check the new president, but at the same time many americans are skeptical of the press. it's a very complicated situation. >> let me put this by you, ben. if a media entity is a cheerleader for donald trump and never puts his feet to the fire, won't you lose the trust of the american public, too, if you continue to do that consistently? >> i certainly would hope so. here's the thing, every white house treats opposing media as the opposition: the trump white house i think rightly looks at a lot of the mainstream media and said you're the operation during the campa...

To cover him skept tickally when he deserved it, not when he didn't, and it is almost like we have a bifurcation of the media with access and don't and a difference in the coverage. can that system possibly sustain? >> yes. it is not a system that i particular want to see, but i think it is where we're going. the one thing i'll say for donald trump is that he'll change his mind about people, meaning -- >> yeah, yes. >> like he won't -- he'll say, this is the worst, most awful person, media entity in the world, and then there will be a nice article about him or someone will approach him -- >> h...

Important subject in the next few years than it has been. immigration is a subject on which we need more light and perhaps a little bit less heat. and we're going to try to move on that. and then there are a lot of people to talk about as we restaff the government. that's appropriate. it's important to know who these people are and what they stand for. >> i hope that this -- the trump election will remind people of the importance of watch dog accountability. at "the nation," we're going to strengthen our investigative reporting, look at trump's crony capitalism and look at white supremacist, l...