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Nfl may well have a bigger mega phone and as much as a presence on the national stage as donald trump. if there is anyone that can kind of go tit for tat with donald trump in terms of publicity, in terms of social media exposure, in terms of television coverage, the nfl is probably it. so after donald trump has been so critical of others over the last few months and gone after this or that group or what have you, you know, he may have picked on a group might just be able to handle him. and so far it looks like they are. so, again, if there is political capital for donald trump, maybe. but in t...

Through congress to the smaller things. to hugging, shaking hands, listening to stories. that is something that define as president we haven't seen yet this president do. i think if the president were to read the editorial you had on earlier in the show from the "houston chronicle" calling on him to use his bully pulpit, his charisma, his mega phone for good in this case, this could change his presidency. at this point, the early presidencies of barack obama still were not defined. george w. bush, still not defined. didn't come until september 11th, of course. not saying this is along the same...

Remembering that donald trump is not afraid to roll any of the people around them. he has rolled a lot of people. he rolls his own daughter on the paris climate deal. i just -- i think that the fact that he is -- that trump himself is the last trumpian in the white house is a very significant detail. and the lovers of steve bannon is significant but i don't think that it necessarily changes all of that. >> bret: on the outside, he has a huge mega phone in breitbart news. he apparently now is back to being the executive chairman and also led the afternoon editorial meeting today. it happened qu...

Remembering that donald trump is not afraid to roll any of the people around them. he has rolled a lot of people. he rolls his own daughter on the paris climate deal. i just -- i think that the fact that he is -- that trump himself is the last trumpian in the white house is a very significant detail. and the lovers of steve bannon is significant but i don't think that it necessarily changes all of that. >> bret: on the outside, he has a huge mega phone in breitbart news. he apparently now is back to being the executive chairman and also led the afternoon editorial meeting today. it happened qu...

Right now vice president mike pence is flying back to the u.s. cutting by some stark covers on news stands, the economist shows trump screaming is that a mega phone shaped like a kkk hood. the new yorker shows trump on a boat blowing into a boat shaped like a kkk hood. and "time" magazine. >> and you've written about all of these issues this week, start with what you see. if you're willing, what you feel when you look at those covers. >> well, what i see in those covers is both a condemnation and a validation. the condemnation by the journalists involved of the new