Competence and physical -- incompetence and physical liabilities, they're focused on race. >> this is national urban league president mark more yeah talking about ron desantis -- moria talking about ron desantis. >> has made himself in many respects a 20% -- george wallace blocked the deer schools. >> he's blocking the doors to libraries. >> he's blocking the doors to the legitimacy of african-american contributions to this country. >> it's offensive. >> it's racist -- >> joining us now, horace cooper, project 21 chairman and xavier daroé uso, former dnl activist. >> horace, do those kind of ...