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With two of the and independents. three groups who were put off by it. i thought ryan missed some opportunities. but it was h his first debate. i thought he could have put biden on his heels on the first benghazi answer. but he didn't. but he had a sold debate and did what he needed to do. biden excited his base but i'm not sure he extended beyond that. >> kelly ann you have said that both biden and obama played into stereo types in the debates. describe what you meaney. >> stereo types for politicians and for male politicians. you don't need a pollster to tell you that women don't like two ki...

With two of the and independents. three groups who were put off by it. i thought ryan missed some opportunities. but it was h his first debate. i thought he could have put biden on his heels on the first benghazi answer. but he didn't. but he had a sold debate and did what he needed to do. biden excited his base but i'm not sure he extended beyond that. >> kelly ann you have said that both biden and obama played into stereo types in the debates. describe what you meaney. >> stereo types for politicians and for male politicians. you don't need a pollster to tell you that women don't like two ki...

With two of the and independents. three groups who were put off by it. i thought ryan missed some opportunities. but it was h his first debate. i thought he could have put biden on his heels on the first benghazi answer. but he didn't. but he had a sold debate and did what he needed to do. biden excited his base but i'm not sure he extended beyond that. >> kelly ann you have said that both biden and obama played into stereo types in the debates. describe what you meaney. >> stereo types for politicians and for male politicians. you don't need a pollster to tell you that women don't like two ki...