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Romney, women, young people, and with two of the independents, three groups who were put off by it. i thought that ryan missed some opportunities. i thought, but it was his first debate. i thought he could have put biden on his heels on the first benghazi answer, but he didn't. he did a solid debate and did what he needed to do. biden excited his base, but not sure it extended beyond that. >> mike: kelly ann, you've said that biden and obama played into stereotypes in their debates. >> stereotypes for male politician, you don't need a pollster to tell women don't like two kinds of men. one is ...

With two of the and independents. three groups who were put off by it. i thought ryan missed some opportunities. but it was h his first debate. i thought he could have put biden on his heels on the first benghazi answer. but he didn't. but he had a sold debate and did what he needed to do. biden excited his base but i'm not sure he extended beyond that. >> kelly ann you have said that both biden and obama played into stereo types in the debates. describe what you meaney. >> stereo types for politicians and for male politicians. you don't need a pollster to tell you that women don't like two ki...

With two of the and independents. three groups who were put off by it. i thought ryan missed some opportunities. but it was h his first debate. i thought he could have put biden on his heels on the first benghazi answer. but he didn't. but he had a sold debate and did what he needed to do. biden excited his base but i'm not sure he extended beyond that. >> kelly ann you have said that both biden and obama played into stereo types in the debates. describe what you meaney. >> stereo types for politicians and for male politicians. you don't need a pollster to tell you that women don't like two ki...

With two of the and independents. three groups who were put off by it. i thought ryan missed some opportunities. but it was h his first debate. i thought he could have put biden on his heels on the first benghazi answer. but he didn't. but he had a sold debate and did what he needed to do. biden excited his base but i'm not sure he extended beyond that. >> kelly ann you have said that both biden and obama played into stereo types in the debates. describe what you meaney. >> stereo types for politicians and for male politicians. you don't need a pollster to tell you that women don't like two ki...